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WTS/WTT Traded, thanks for the cars FlyingZebra!






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*PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ MY ENTIRE POST BEFORE YOU REPLY - Yes, I know it is long*

I bought this rifle about a year ago to help out someone I know, but it's clear now that they won't be buying it back for a variety of reasons. I have little interest in shooting it myself, as I have two other 700 BDLs in calibers that I prefer that I am well stocked for. Thus, I might as well sell it. I'm not in the habit of keeping or acquiring anything that I don't actually plan on shooting.

The date code and serial number indicate that it was manufactured in August 1963, which was confirmed to me by Remington when I emailed them with all of the particulars.

This 57 year old rifle is in very good original condition overall, with some light scratching of the finish on the stock. It does not appear to have seen much use based on the relative lack of wear, but I have no idea how many rounds it has fired. The bore looks very nice, bolt functions beautifully smooth. This rifle has a 20" barrel. The fellow that I bought it from acquired it in the '90s and says he rarely shot it himself. It comes with a nice vintage leather Hunter sling.

The scope is a Simmons AETEC 3.8-12x44mm. Not particularly fancy or nice, but I used it for a while on another rifle and it works. I am willing to sell it with or without the scope, whatever your preference, but you must buy the ammo with it, as I have nothing else in this caliber and will not need it if I sell the rifle. I have a total of 81 rounds, as pictured. It came to me with two partial boxes, but I purchased the other three full boxes in addition.

Price for the complete package of rifle, scope and ammo is $650.

If you want the rifle and ammo without the scope the price is $550.

I am potentially willing to sell the ammo separately so long as I also have a buyer interested in the rifle without the ammo. The ammo by itself would be $100, the rifle $450, or with scope $550. This ammo was over a dollar a round before all this nonsense started this year. I believe I paid about $33 for the Hornady SST and $25/box for the Federal Power Shok.

This is not a desperation sale and I don't need the cash, so don't waste your time lowballing. Prices are firm.

Please read and understand the following:
I am located in Carson City and I am not interested in shipping anything. Cash only, face to face. If you are interested, you MUST PM me with your name, phone number, tell me specifically what package you're interested in, as well as when you are available to meet. If you post "I'll take it", you must also PM me right away or I will assume you are not serious. Long time members in good standing with a solid 100% feedback history will receive a bonus, likewise for anyone I have already done business with before.

I am potentially interested in certain trades, either adding or receiving cash up or down as necessary to make it fair. In particular, I'm always interested in the following:

A Beretta 92FS Inox - another Glock 17 gen 2 or 3 only, or a Glock 17L or 34 - a full size M&P 9 2.0 - any full size Canik 9mm - an SKS, preferably Yugo - any 20" A2 style AR-15. Not interested in any ammo at today's pricing. Potentially interested in all kinds of other stuff as well, it doesn't hurt to ask.

Thanks for looking.

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Sam, replied to your PM to me, see if you can open it. Don't know why it would be blocked, was only a couple of sentences long and no pictures, graphics, schematics, blue prints, etc.
 

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Sam, replied to your PM to me, see if you can open it. Don't know why it would be blocked, was only a couple of sentences long and no pictures, graphics, schematics, blue prints, etc.
Per your PM.. we now have to state the trade value of items we're potentially looking for? That doesn't make sense, as what I am willing to pay or otherwise value someone else's item at depends on condition, age, what all it comes with, whether or not they voted for Trump(may be kidding on this one.. slightly), etc.. How am I supposed to state a trade value for someone else's stuff without seeing it and evaluating it first? I thought we're supposed to state the trade value of our own stuff, which I've already done by stating a price. Just trying to clarify here.

If someone has a high round count, well used, lots of holster wear Glock 17 gen 3 with one ten round mag, I might be willing to pay $250-300 for it.. but if someone has a mint, new in box gen 2 with everything that came with it, five mags, and maybe some other goodies, that would change things a lot. You know? Only makes sense to state a value for your own stuff, since the condition is known, as well as what all is included.
 

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The reason for stating a trade value of items you will accept is to keep someone from coming along and offering you the item you will accept in trade, and when you go to make the trade, their item is in deplorable condition.

For example, I could offer to trade you my Beretta 92FS Inox, we meet after you drive a long ways, and you find out that my idea of excellent condition is different than yours, my 92FS Inox has been dropped from a high altitude into a rock quarry , but hey, those scratches will polish out, and that crack in the slide is barely noticeable.

By stating that you will accept a Beretta 92FS Inox that would sell for an amount equal to or greater than the cash price of your sale offering, it is hoped that low ball trade offers that don't become apparent as being such until you get to see the item in person will be reduced.

Here's what the Trading Post Rules say:
READ THE TRADING POST RULES BEFORE POSTING! ADS NOT COMPLYING WILL BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY!
No more than 2 active ads at any one time, although they may have any number of items in each of the two ads. If there are three active ads from a single member, the oldest ad will be deleted without notice!
All Ads must have location (City), Price, value of items acceptable for trade if you are willing to trade, and a Picture of the ACTUAL ITEM you are selling, so the potential buyer can see the condition of the item YOU are offering for sale. This means NO FILE PHOTOS or STOCK PHOTOS.
 

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This is a great old school rifle. In fantastic shape. When I reloaded, it was for .243(6mm). So many choices of loads. Because of the rifles age, does it have to go though a ffl, or could it be C&R no back ground needed? I am not sure about the differences.
I believe you need a C&R license to purchase weapons that qualify without an FFL transfer. Otherwise, NV laws re: private party sales apply.
 

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The reason for stating a trade value of items you will accept is to keep someone from coming along and offering you the item you will accept in trade, and when you go to make the trade, their item is in deplorable condition.

For example, I could offer to trade you my Beretta 92FS Inox, we meet after you drive a long ways, and you find out that my idea of excellent condition is different than yours, my 92FS Inox has been dropped from a high altitude into a rock quarry , but hey, those scratches will polish out, and that crack in the slide is barely noticeable.

By stating that you will accept a Beretta 92FS Inox that would sell for an amount equal to or greater than the cash price of your sale offering, it is hoped that low ball trade offers that don't become apparent as being such until you get to see the item in person will be reduced.

Here's what the Trading Post Rules say:
READ THE TRADING POST RULES BEFORE POSTING! ADS NOT COMPLYING WILL BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY!
No more than 2 active ads at any one time, although they may have any number of items in each of the two ads. If there are three active ads from a single member, the oldest ad will be deleted without notice!
All Ads must have location (City), Price, value of items acceptable for trade if you are willing to trade, and a Picture of the ACTUAL ITEM you are selling, so the potential buyer can see the condition of the item YOU are offering for sale. This means NO FILE PHOTOS or STOCK PHOTOS.
See, now I'm even more confused. I honestly don't think I have seen anyone specify a valuation for the items they're interested in trading for, but just for their own items they are offering. It still doesn't make sense, because no matter what I state I am willing to offer in trade value, it will potentially turn away a willing trader. Example:

For a mint, brand new in box Glock 17 gen 2, that would be worth about $750 to me. But as mentioned, a well worn and used gen 3 with a ton of rounds through it might be worth $250. If I state either of those values, I will very obviously turn away the potential trader at the other end of the spectrum. However, if I state a trade value in between, say $500, that will still turn away the high end trader, but will also now make the low end trader think his gun is worth more than it is to me. He'll respond and get upset when I say I'm not interested, even though I said I sould be willing to pay $xxx.xx in my ad.

I'm honestly not sure how my stating a trade value for what I'm looking for will stop the dishonest folks who misrepresent their items from doing so. What puts them in check and prevents me from wasting my time is my doing my due diligence - asking the right questions and asking to see pictures, especially if I'm going to make a drive to go check it out.

Understand, I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing or say that I'm above the rules, I'm just trying to understand this rule, as it makes no sense to me. The only thing that I think will come of it is that it will potentially turn away willing traders, and won't stop the dishonest misrepresenters from being dishonest.

Unless of course, I write an even longer huge section detailing all the potential prices I'm willing to pay for very specific guns, conditions, the value of each potential accessory, breakdown the value based on how many miles I have to travel, whether or not I have to go uphill in the snow both directions to get there, etc etc.

The only thing that makes sense to me is to state the value of my item, let other people determine the value of theirs, and see if we can come together on a deal. Lots and lots of people here post the trade value of their own item, but basically nobody posts the trade value of the item they're looking for. It just doesn't make sense, there's too many variables, even with common stuff, and tons of variables with uncommon stuff. I need to see exactly what someone has and what all comes with it before I can make an honest valuation on it.
 

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Six, the recoil pad? Is that original or a replacement? What is the condition of the rifling and bore?
 
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