Is it just me or does EVERYONE have a fake "service dog"




#1
Home Depot, Costco, grocery store, restaurants, bars, airport. I see it all the time. So called service dogs with vests on. Like literally EVERYWHERE. We were at a bar yesterday for the game and a table of 5 came in and sat next to us with a small terrier. The manager came over and told them animals are not allowed. One of the women at the table snapped at the manager "it's a service dog!". The damn thing was jumping all over and begging for food. Then this morning at lunch we went to a local PTs and wouldn't ya know another dog walks in (a tiny Chuawawa). This time the host told them no dogs, they said "it's a service dog" and she asked for paperwork which they didn't have. The man stuck his middle finger up at the host and held it there then started yelling obscene language at her and walked out.

Back in my day a "service dog" was just that...a dog that provided a specific 'service' such as seeing eye dogs. Now, everyone has a service dog. And of course the "emotional dogs" because every damn person on the planet has 'anxiety'.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I went to the indoor dog park/groomer by my office and they told me a real service dog takes years to train, costing $15k-$20k and such dogs will never ride in shopping carts, sit in carry cages, jump around, bark, or beg for food and won't be wearing cute outfits or painted nails. And in fact the law specifically excludes emotional dogs from service dog laws.
 

pick_six

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#2
Service my LT!

Pigs, Shetland ponies, and others.

I’ve known people with REAL service dogs, blind folks and MIL/LEO handler/trainer/officer, but much like other things in life, some folks just go a little tooooooooo far!

Germany was a little different back in the day. Maybe still is. Different culture I guess.

And just imagine if an OC guy reacted the way the dog folks in you’re story did. RED FLAG!
 

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#3
Yeah it is a scam. My cousin registered her dog as a service dog just because. Fill out a form online and maybe pay a small fee... "Service dog".

A friend with MS just got herself a service dog. She had several fund raisers and it took over a year to get the dog, she had to go to training with the dog for a few weeks? before she could bring him home.
 

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#5
Snowflake's pets are "therapy" dogs. . .
Yep, “Therapy” dogs. Just need a Dr. to sign off on it. No training required. I’ve known a few people over the years that have done it.

The upside I guess is at least these people are interacting with the animal instead of just leaving it alone all the time. Too many people have dogs that shouldn’t.

Also, that is how people are getting around the restricted breed list for apartments and such. (mainly pits)
 

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#7
The laws vary from state to state. A service animal (requires training) is different than a emotional support animal (does not require training)

All depends how the paperwork was written up. ESAs are protected by the Federal Fair Housing laws

In some cases people just get those vests that say “Service Animal” online for about $20 and most don’t question it.
 
#8
The laws vary from state to state. A service animal (requires training) is different than a emotional support animal (does not require training)

All depends how the paperwork was written up. ESAs are protected by the Federal Fair Housing laws

In some cases people just get those vests that say “Service Animal” online for about $20 and most don’t question it.
Correct emotional support housing laws and airlines with proper paperwork. Business do not not. Also even if it is a service animal it must behave cannot cause damage etc. otherwise as a business owner you can ask them to leave. Real service animals will not have these issues as they are trained.
 
#9
But I agree. Too many pets try and get passed off as service animals. Gives real people with disabilities and service animals a harder time. I wish they would make stricter laws. Currently as a business owner your hands are tied you can only ask a couple questions and cannot ask for paperwork. As long as you know what to say you can get away with it.
 
#10
I don't know how a business owner cannot ask for paperwork to prove that a dog is a service dog. Especially if they do not have the vest that says "Service Dog". I see so many running around in the the stores it is pathetic.
 

Harley

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#11
From what I understand they can only ask if the owner is disabled and what tasks the dog is trained to perform. But it is illegal to falsely claim its a “service animal”

If its in doubt, I guess ya could call LE to verify, maybe?
 
#12
Yeah we have an ….hole down the street with a Lab that he claims is a service dog. Drives by on his scooter no leash on the dog craps in peoples yards no vest!! Yeah he's a service dog!!

BW
 

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#13
Call your local Health Department and complain. I just looked it up on the Washoe County Health Department
010.770 "Service Animal" defined means an animal that has been trained to assist or accommodate a person with a disability. The item I read was dated Sept 09 2016.
My BIL was eating at a local Outback when an older couple came in with their dog. The dog was not on the floor but was with them on the seats and had it's paws on the table. He complained to the management but they said they were good loyal customers. Nothing about being a service dog.
 

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#14
I need to get a vest for my cats and claim they are "Service cats" just for giggles. It is nuts, I have seen so called service dogs poop in walmart here. Not cool.
 

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Call your local Health Department and complain. I just looked it up on the Washoe County Health Department
010.770 "Service Animal" defined means an animal that has been trained to assist or accommodate a person with a disability. The item I read was dated Sept 09 2016.
My BIL was eating at a local Outback when an older couple came in with their dog. The dog was not on the floor but was with them on the seats and had it's paws on the table. He complained to the management but they said they were good loyal customers. Nothing about being a service dog.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclop...ogs-horses-and-emotional-support-animals.html

Under the ADA and Nevada’s public accommodations law, a public accommodation may not ask you questions about your disability or demand to see certification, identification, or other proof of your animal’s training or status. If it is not apparent what your service animal does, the establishment may ask you only whether it is a service animal, and what tasks it performs for you.
Yeah, it sucks!
 

Bulleteater

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Wow, more "stricter laws?" Okay. Reminds me of a convo I had a few years ago with a dog trainer from Cali. He had a Cali-approved Service Dog with him, in the casino, and he was bragging about how great the Cali laws were, including fines of about $1,000 for anyone who had a fake service dog license. And he said they actually enforce these laws in the "People's Utopia."

My response to him: that's why I'm so glad I do NOT live in the fuucking state of Kommiefornia! Followed by my lecture on freedom. He got thrown by that, and kinda had to walk back his love for the Almighty State.

My opinion: I love pet-friendly establishments. Wish we had more of them here in Vegas. Dogs are family. I like the freedom of bringing a family member with me *anywhere* I go. I understand each business has the right to set their rules how they please; so I'll look for places that are both OC-friendly and pet-friendly. Glad we still have that Freedom here.

As long as the dog is well-behaved and not causing an uproar, what's the problem? (turn the same question around for guys with guns on their hips)
 

Harley

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#19
As long as the dog is well-behaved and not causing an uproar, what's the problem? (turn the same question around for guys with guns on their hips)
I think ya missed the point.

The problem isnt so much people taking pets everywhere as it it is the non well behaved pets and also the falsely claimed “service animals”

I don’t see the similarity to OC, its not exactly the same thing.
 
#20
I was at a fast food place this last weekend. Lady set her toy dog on the counter while order. It stood there scared and shivering.

Not okay. Not appropriate for 'family', or at least I hope you don't set your children on the counter while ordering ;)