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Old 11-03-2017, 08:36 PM   #11
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For the Phoenix I'd try contacting them.
I just read a thread praising them for service.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums....php?t=1023969

https://www.phoenix-arms.com/
OK thanks JR3.
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:36 PM   #12
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The Nylon 66 problem is easily fixed also.

Most likely the inner magazine tube has had the ears on the butt end of it bent or broken off.

If you can take a picture of the outside end of the inner mag tube (the one with the black plastic thumb knob on the end, long brass tube with a spring in the center and a plunger tip at the other end) and of the hole in the stock it goes into, I can tell you for certain which of two problems you have and how to fix it.

As for the phoenix arms, the most likely culprit is the magazine, and number two would be the magazine catch.

Send pictures of the magazine, both sides, and if you can, a picture of the inside of the mag well , and I can probably tell you how to fix that one as well.
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:54 PM   #13
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The Nylon 66 problem is easily fixed also.

Most likely the inner magazine tube has had the ears on the butt end of it bent or broken off.

If you can take a picture of the outside end of the inner mag tube (the one with the black plastic thumb knob on the end, long brass tube with a spring in the center and a plunger tip at the other end) and of the hole in the stock it goes into, I can tell you for certain which of two problems you have and how to fix it.

As for the phoenix arms, the most likely culprit is the magazine, and number two would be the magazine catch.

Send pictures of the magazine, both sides, and if you can, a picture of the inside of the mag well , and I can probably tell you how to fix that one as well.
Thanks a lot Steve I'll work on the pictures tonight. Thanks again!
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Old 11-04-2017, 07:12 AM   #14
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The Nylon 66 problem is easily fixed also.

Most likely the inner magazine tube has had the ears on the butt end of it bent or broken off.

If you can take a picture of the outside end of the inner mag tube (the one with the black plastic thumb knob on the end, long brass tube with a spring in the center and a plunger tip at the other end) and of the hole in the stock it goes into, I can tell you for certain which of two problems you have and how to fix it.

As for the phoenix arms, the most likely culprit is the magazine, and number two would be the magazine catch.

Send pictures of the magazine, both sides, and if you can, a picture of the inside of the mag well , and I can probably tell you how to fix that one as well.
When I push in on the orange tip plunger, it's met with very little resistance. The spring inside feels mushy. I didn't mention in my previous post that when I hold the mag tube in (so it doesn't fall out while I shoot) it jams quite a bit.
The mag on the Phoenix Arms just won't click when I insert it and sticks out of the bottom about a quarter of an inch.

I don't know if it helps but the Nylon is about 50 years old and was a hand me down. I don't think any work was ever done on it.

I hope the pictures help.

Thanks.
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Old 11-05-2017, 03:23 AM   #15
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OK, for the Nylon 66, the pins look worn down, and even if they are perfect, having a weak or busted magazine spring will cause it to misfeed and it will cause the magazine to not stay in place.

It has to have the rearward pressure of a good magazine spring to hold the pins in the L shaped slots in the outer magazine tube.
Also, if the follower is bad, it will cause these issues too.

All these parts are available from Numrich Arms, and easily replaced.
You can find them all on this page.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...ylon-66?page=2

On to the Phoenix Arms.........Are you sure you have the right magazine for it?
It should go all the way in, EVEN if it doesn't lock into place. If it stops a 1/4" from going home, then either it is the wrong magazine, or the top feed lips are damaged and hanging up on the inside of the frame mag well some where.

There is a slight possibility that the magazine latch is damaged.

Magazines, and the latch are also available from Numrich Arms, at this page
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...ms/hp22?page=2

None of the parts for the Nylon 66 or the Phoenix are terribly expensive, and you can replace all of them yourself easily. Give it a try, get those fine .22's out of the safe and back into the light!
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OK, for the Nylon 66, the pins look worn down, and even if they are perfect, having a weak or busted magazine spring will cause it to misfeed and it will cause the magazine to not stay in place.

It has to have the rearward pressure of a good magazine spring to hold the pins in the L shaped slots in the outer magazine tube.
Also, if the follower is bad, it will cause these issues too.

All these parts are available from Numrich Arms, and easily replaced.
You can find them all on this page.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...ylon-66?page=2

On to the Phoenix Arms.........Are you sure you have the right magazine for it?
It should go all the way in, EVEN if it doesn't lock into place. If it stops a 1/4" from going home, then either it is the wrong magazine, or the top feed lips are damaged and hanging up on the inside of the frame mag well some where.

There is a slight possibility that the magazine latch is damaged.

Magazines, and the latch are also available from Numrich Arms, at this page
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-man...ms/hp22?page=2

None of the parts for the Nylon 66 or the Phoenix are terribly expensive, and you can replace all of them yourself easily. Give it a try, get those fine .22's out of the safe and back into the light!
First of all, I want to say thank you for your time and effort in addressing the issues with my rimfires. You didn't have to do that and I really appreciate it.

I went to Numrich Arms and am going to order the entire magazine tube. Very reasonable prices and I think that after 50 years the Nylon 66 is due for a new one. When working properly, it's one of my favorite rimfire rifles.

On the Phoenix arms, it's the original magazine and I should have been more specific. It goes all the way in and tries to lock in place but won't. Then it slowly slides out to where it's sticking out about 1/4". I'm also going to order another magazine for that. Member JR3 also gave me a couple of good links for the Phoenix Arms. It's a heavy little gun but accurate as all get out. I liked carrying it with hollow points and in a pocket holster. Probably the best $100 .22 pistol I've owned.

Thanks again for your advice Steve. There's a lot of knowledgeable people and great info on these forums and I should have joined years ago.
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If the magazine used to work properly, and now doesn't, and you see no signs of damage to the magazine,especially in the area of the latch notch, then the latch itself is probably the culprit.

Glad to be of service, good luck with the repairs.
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If the magazine used to work properly, and now doesn't, and you see no signs of damage to the magazine,especially in the area of the latch notch, then the latch itself is probably the culprit.

Glad to be of service, good luck with the repairs.
Thank you Steve.
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