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Old 08-11-2017, 03:33 AM   #1
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I can buy 1000 rounds of loaded .223 Winchester Ammunition for about 32 cents a round. I can buy unloaded brass for about 25 cents a round. Honestly I can't see any reason to not just buy the bullets and reload them once they are fired, rather than buying raw brass. I supposed if I needed every round to be hand-loaded for extra accuracy, I might do it that way, but I don't. What do most of you do?

Second question, I load Creedmoor 6.5 ammo. It costs about $1.11 for each Lapua brass. .308 is only a little cheaper. Nosler is about the same. Hornady and Starline are about half the price. My question is, is the quality brass worse twice the price. I have heard you can reuse good brass more often, but is that plus perhaps a slight improvement in accuracy worth it if you are not loading for competition. I have heard brass is the last place you go looking for improvements in accuracy, that is after bullets, powder charge size and powder itself.
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I buy very little brass, and I don't walk past any brass, without picking it up. Nothing wrong with buying factory ammo, and saving the brass, but it's not often that I go shooting, and don't come home with more brass than I took.

Seems like most shooters don't reload, but you have to be sure you are not poaching someone else's brass, if they are trying to save it for themselves!

When shooting with my wife, and others see we are picking up our brass, it's not uncommon for other shooters to help her pick up brass, of course, she's much more social than I am and make friends quickly! Before long, you can develop quite a collection of brass! Load your calibers, and trade the rest for calibers that you do.
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For me, reloading is another hobby that supports my shooting hobby.
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For me, reloading is another hobby that supports my shooting hobby.
Yup, well said!
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I can buy 1000 rounds of loaded .223 Winchester Ammunition for about 32 cents a round. I can buy unloaded brass for about 25 cents a round. Honestly I can't see any reason to not just buy the bullets and reload them once they are fired, rather than buying raw brass. I supposed if I needed every round to be hand-loaded for extra accuracy, I might do it that way, but I don't. What do most of you do?

Second question, I load Creedmoor 6.5 ammo. It costs about $1.11 for each Lapua brass. .308 is only a little cheaper. Nosler is about the same. Hornady and Starline are about half the price. My question is, is the quality brass worse twice the price. I have heard you can reuse good brass more often, but is that plus perhaps a slight improvement in accuracy worth it if you are not loading for competition. I have heard brass is the last place you go looking for improvements in accuracy, that is after bullets, powder charge size and powder itself.
I quoted so I can see what I'm responding to. On .223 I'd buy loaded rounds and then have a batch of fire formed brass to reload. I only load lake city brass in that caliber. For 308 I have lapua and LC LR brass that I bought unfired & primed. That has worked out well. My loads have exactly 1grain more powder for both 168 & 175 SMKs using Lapua brass.

Depending on what your acceptable level of accuracy is brass can make a difference. Some sort their brass by weight based on the fact that capacity varies slightly by weight. I don't do that. Expensive brass is consistent brass. Good brass lasts longer than cheap brass, but it costs significantly more.

I don't even bother reloading 9mm or .223 these days since it's so cheap. there are a lot of things I'd rather be doing than reloading ammo. I know for some it's a hobby for me it's a necessary evil. As the saying goes - you don't save any money, you just shoot a lot more.

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9mm - brass from my factory rounds and anything I find cause I don't care what brand it is
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If your reloading for accuracy then there is a reason to reload. If your a minute of can shooter at 25 yards don't waste your time.

I buy Winchester 243 brass and neck up for my 260. I just beat a bunch of guys in a shoot today that go to great lengths to prep their brass.

There is a lot of unnecessary BS about reloading.
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If your reloading for accuracy then there is a reason to reload. If your a minute of can shooter at 25 yards don't waste your time.

I buy Winchester 243 brass and neck up for my 260. I just beat a bunch of guys in a shoot today that go to great lengths to prep their brass.

There is a lot of unnecessary BS about reloading.
@BW64 I think I found the guy that got 17/20 lol.
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Nah! That's not him. He doesn't shoot .260.


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Old 08-27-2017, 09:54 PM   #9
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Your level of cost, effort and time in regards to the "cost of reloading" should be matched to your intent. If you are trying to achieve sub minute of angle accuracy, you most likely have a rifle which has an upgraded barrel, improved trigger, high-quality optics, etc, etc.

If this is the case, then one would want to optimize your ammunition as well. High-quality brass is essential as is the selection of a match-grade bullet (projectile), bench-rest primer and a powder / weight selection which has a proved quantifiable record. If you are reloading these type of components, significant time is spent on preparing your brass. Every time you fire and resize your brass, it will stretch and harden making the case neck / shoulder more brittle. It is reasonable to get 5 to 8 uses from your brass; pay close attention and inspect as the case neck thins, hardens and visible cracks will occur at which point you must discard. A procedure to minimize brass hardening is to anneal (heating) which softens the case neck / shoulder.

If you are training for other uses such as shorter-range multi-gun competitions or instinctive shooting type events, I would not use high-cost reloading components. You can achieve reliable quality ammunition by using the same reloading techniques.

It is reasonable to conduct a non-scientific test by firing a few low cost ammunition groups and then some of your reloaded ammunition. If you use quality bullets (projectiles), a well documented powder / weight and proper reloading techniques, I would bet you will see much tighter groups with your reloaded ammunition than the low-cost factory stuff.

Good luck and have fun!
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I just retired a batch of Hornady 6.5CM brass with 13 and 14 firings on it. These loads run through a $1200 factory rifle were always sub half Moa at 1/2 the price of factory match ammo.

I also load 9mm, 45acp and .223. Safe, reliable and accurate ammo at 1/2 the cost of factory until the recent price drops. When everyone was hunting for ammo during the past few years I was selling my factory ammo because I didn't need it. I haven't shot factory ammo except 22lr and shotgun in over 5 years.

It's all about what your priorities are. Times are fat right now so enjoy the feast. Things will change again in the future just like they did in the past.
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