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Old 01-30-2017, 08:48 PM   #11
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Default After 41F, are NFA trusts now mostly irrelevant?

Can you e-file without a trust?
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No, you cannot e-file a Form 4 now regardless of status. However, that is irrelevant to my question.

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Gotcha, just a noob question on my part. If you could e-file a trust but couldn't an individual, that might be of interest to some. But if that's not a thing at all right now then, yeah, it doesn't matter.
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You used to be able to e-file Form 4s, but the BATFE disabled that in 2015 to break our balls.

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Not just NFA but all firearms: wouldn't having the firearms in a trust mean they can go straight to your children in another state without going through an FFL?
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Not just NFA but all firearms: wouldn't having the firearms in a trust mean they can go straight to your children in another state without going through an FFL?
They already can -- any non-NFA firearms received via inheritance can be transported to a home state without involving an FFL.

The advantage of a trust with NFA items is there isn't any paperwork needed like there is for inheritances.
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Hopefully if the HPA becomes a reality, I and anyone else will be able to just make our own cans.... there are kits out there now...
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They already can -- any non-NFA firearms received via inheritance can be transported to a home state without involving an FFL.

The advantage of a trust with NFA items is there isn't any paperwork needed like there is for inheritances.
Not exactly what I meant. Normally, your assets go to your spouse upon your death. Having a trust skips having to have a will specify that your guns go straight to your children. If your wife inherits your firearms and then transfers them to your children, that is a gift that goes through an ffl.
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Not exactly what I meant. Normally, your assets go to your spouse upon your death. Having a trust skips having to have a will specify that your guns go straight to your children. If your wife inherits your firearms and then transfers them to your children, that is a gift that goes through an ffl.
Inheritance laws vary widely from state to state. Just because someone has a spouse does not mean that all of their possessions automatically go to their spouse. This is especially true if there is a will in place stating otherwise.
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