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Old 05-19-2017, 10:45 AM   #21
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Bring out the gimp?

Honestly, this is s tough one legally but morally less so. Running after someone with a knife is a direct threat that requires an armed response and phone call to 911. Then to my lawyer.
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:23 PM   #22
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911 and Camera Phone, in that order.
after the camera phone goes on there is usually looting. when does looting begin?
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:42 PM   #23
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The right thing to do is to try to stop any further violence.
The right thing to do may land you in jail.
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This times 10.

Best I could offer would be to help keep the two parties separate until police come, but it would depend on what additional details present themselves and what vibe I get from the scene. I would really want to avoid the situation to minimize the chance this violent situation impacts my family sitting inside the house (since we're now close to my driveway). There is no blanket policy I would have in the situation as described. This is why:

-Sure, it would appear like an attempted murder at face value and you'd want to shoot the guy with the knife.

-But, on the other hand, maybe the guy with the knife now was the original victim of a robbery at knife point that went wrong, and knife man has multiple stab wounds (he is covered in blood, after all), but he was able to wrestle the knife away from the now-victim who is pleading for their life.

-Or, maybe knife-man caught victim-man raping his daughter. I don't rightly know I could sleep at night knowing I shot a dad who was trying to rid the world of his daughter's rapist...


Hypotheticals like this should be and are usually a part of everyone's CCW course, and it's good to put a lot of gun newbs through this chain of thought. In multiple classes I've taken, there's always at least ONE person who thinks they're going to get to play pretend cops and robbers now that they're going to have a gun on their hip, and teaching them straightaway that the best of intentions could get them twenty to life always makes them pale and sober.
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911 and Camera Phone, in that order.
And make sure that you are recording in landscape mode, not that portrait crap that is really annoying to watch with the blurred sides.
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:44 PM   #24
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Man you guys can be dicks. I hope it's never my wife running from a rapist who stabbed her and she managed to get away.

My answer is it depends. Assess the situation, see if the story adds up in the split second you have. If it appears the guy was attacked and running for his life I'd let him on my property, call the cops, and if the man with a knife approaches I'd warn him to go away and if he continues to advance I'd shoot him.

On the other hand if I don't buy the story I go inside and call the cops.

But to outright say I wouldn't intervene in any situation that involves someone else getting attacked is pretty messed up IMHO.
I never assume that the woman is the victim.
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Hypotheticals like this should be and are usually a part of everyone's CCW course, and it's good to put a lot of gun newbs through this chain of thought. In multiple classes I've taken, there's always at least ONE person who thinks they're going to get to play pretend cops and robbers now that they're going to have a gun on their hip, and teaching them straightaway that the best of intentions could get them twenty to life always makes them pale and sober.
One of the first scenarios on video the class watched in my CCW class was an assault taking place in the hallway of a hotel, with a female victim and male aggressor. The observer hears something, walks down the hall, turns the corner, and sees the attack. The female calls for help, to get the assailant off of her.

The point of the video was to demonstrate that if you haven't witnessed the conflict from the beginning, you really don't know who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. In this scenario, the male aggressor was an undercover cop, and the female was a criminal he was trying to arrest.

Someone in my class said he'd draw on the guy, and then he looked pretty foolish when it turned out the male in the scenario was a cop.
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Go in my house and cry like a liberal.

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Go in my house and cry like a liberal.



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Lmao 😂.
I would ask the guy with the knife who obviously had a bad childhood if he wanted to talk.


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Old 05-19-2017, 07:40 PM   #28
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getting involved with an unknown event is always a thorny issue.

take this case, from 2014, down in LA.

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/apr...uties-20140412

most folks are not given qualified immunity and don't have a .gov to pay lawsuits when they make a mistake.

if "you" did this, even in a pro-gun state, you're going down.

i am waiting to hear the rest of don3-10's story.

****edit: the settlement for the case quoted was $5m...

http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...805-story.html

2nd person shot, who survived, got 2.5m
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Troll post? OP has not revisited with an update.
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I would put them both in the pit in my basement that I keep ready for passerby's such as these fellas.
But would you eat them? George and Martha from Book of Eli.
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