Robbery Victim shot at 7-11 on Sierra Vista Drive

[FightMeImIrish]

Looks like a robbery to me.

Here's what I see:

1. Two men are exiting the store as the assailant approaches. They may be together or maybe the guy in the white shirt was just holding the door for the guy in the dark shirt.

2. The assailant approaches the guy in the dark shirt from behind, and it looks like he makes a grab for the bag he is carrying.

3. Dark shirt resists, and white shirt walks over, opens the door to the store, and yells to the clerk.

4. The assailant changes his target to white shirt, and attempts to get his bag.

5. White shirt also resists.

6. Again thwarted the assailant gives up and starts to leave.

7. White shirt starts yelling to the clerk again, and starts to reach into his pocket, probably for his phone.

8. The assailant turns and decides to kill white shirt as an afterthought.



The barrel of the gun flashes into frame at :24, the headshot occurs at :28

This sick f#ck took a full 3 or 4 seconds to carefully line up his sights.

[MrTuna]

I go into Stop and Robs way to much. I grab gatoraid and water when driving around town. I should pack a cooler. I am always profiling for BGs and was thinking senarios that could happen.

For instance two BGs enter the front door, draw on the cashier and demand money while I am in the back of the store. Would you duck down, draw, and wait ready to shoot? Would you go on the offensive and put a few rounds in each if they are distracted with the cashier making sure you don't hit the cashier? The goal is to survive and my instinct is to fight if you have the element of suprise or have the drop on them to avoid being killed like the guy in the video.

[Luxom]

Originally Posted by FightMeImIrish

Looks like a robbery to me.

I see what you're saying, but I just don't buy that. Either one of them had MAYBE ten dollars of stuff in their bags. I grew up in a really bad part of Las Vegas, and have been robbed twice (Once at gunpoint, another with a knife) along with knowing plenty of really stupid people that have robbed people themselves. In both of my cases it was while I was walking home from the store, and carrying groceries. Neither time did they even ask what I had in the bag. They demand the same old thing. Jewelry, wallet, watch. Same thing with everybody that i've known. They don't care what you bought for dinner, they want your money.
Now i'm a two time silver glove boxer. Once in 08, and the other in 09. (yay mediocrity) I've also spent most of my life in martial arts classes. I'm a second degree blackbelt in Judo. A first degree blackbelt in Aikido/Aikikai. Along with having several years of training in Muay Thai. Both times I was robbed I complied, and handed over the money in my wallet. Some people would say that i'm a victim, but I would say that twenty bucks isn't worth a hospital visit, or my life. If they want my money. Sure. If they want my bank card, and ID. Whatever. Phone? Fine, take it. They're all just possessions.
Now the guy that robbed me with the gun I was lucky, and he just took the money, and ran. Last I heard, or saw of him. The other guy with the knife though decided the five dollars I had on me at the time wasn't enough. He said, "Naw, we're going to the ATM. Turn around, and walk" At which point I decided turning my back on an armed man wasn't a good idea. So I put a press kick into the front of his knee at the same time I dropped my bag, and followed up with a right hook. He went out cold. I picked up my bag, and the knife and bolted. Got about a block away, and called the cops. Told them what happened, but by the time they got there, dude was long gone.

[glocker]

Originally Posted by Luxom

I see what you're saying, but I just don't buy that. Either one of them had MAYBE ten dollars of stuff in their bags. I grew up in a really bad part of Las Vegas, and have been robbed twice (Once at gunpoint, another with a knife) along with knowing plenty of really stupid people that have robbed people themselves. In both of my cases it was while I was walking home from the store, and carrying groceries. Neither time did they even ask what I had in the bag. They demand the same old thing. Jewelry, wallet, watch. Same thing with everybody that i've known. They don't care what you bought for dinner, they want your money.
Now i'm a two time silver glove boxer. Once in 08, and the other in 09. (yay mediocrity) I've also spent most of my life in martial arts classes. I'm a second degree blackbelt in Judo. A first degree blackbelt in Aikido/Aikikai. Along with having several years of training in Muay Thai. Both times I was robbed I complied, and handed over the money in my wallet. Some people would say that i'm a victim, but I would say that twenty bucks isn't worth a hospital visit, or my life. If they want my money. Sure. If they want my bank card, and ID. Whatever. Phone? Fine, take it. They're all just possessions.
Now the guy that robbed me with the gun I was lucky, and he just took the money, and ran. Last I heard, or saw of him. The other guy with the knife though decided the five dollars I had on me at the time wasn't enough. He said, "Naw, we're going to the ATM. Turn around, and walk" At which point I decided turning my back on an armed man wasn't a good idea. So I put a press kick into the front of his knee at the same time I dropped my bag, and followed up with a right hook. He went out cold. I picked up my bag, and the knife and bolted. Got about a block away, and called the cops. Told them what happened, but by the time they got there, dude was long gone.

I got robbed once at gunpoint and also complied. I agree on everything you said but I'm glad you got the drop on the second SOB.

[Pachinko Pistola]

Originally Posted by glocker

I got robbed once at gunpoint and also complied. I agree on everything you said but I'm glad you got the drop on the second SOB.

I also was robbed at an ATM in NY. Black belt here too (traditional karate), and I complied as well.

Stuff isn't worth fighting over. If the threat is great enough though, kick some ass.

[Bulleteater]

Originally Posted by MrTuna

For instance two BGs enter the front door, draw on the cashier and demand money while I am in the back of the store. Would you duck down, draw, and wait ready to shoot? Would you go on the offensive and put a few rounds in each if they are distracted with the cashier making sure you don't hit the cashier? The goal is to survive and my instinct is to fight if you have the element of suprise or have the drop on them to avoid being killed like the guy in the video.

Watch the film Taxi Driver.

Originally Posted by Luxom

I see what you're saying, but I just don't buy that. Either one of them had MAYBE ten dollars of stuff in their bags.

Look, the YouTube description appears to be written by Metro and they specifically list the perp as a "violent armed robber" (based on their investigation which includes interviews with the survivor). That's good enough for me. Today's pschopaths will kill you for a pack of cigarettes, or simply for kicks. There's no rhyme or reason to their evil and there is no dollar amount attached to their crimes.

[MrTuna]

Originally Posted by Bulleteater

Watch the film Taxi Driver.



Look, the YouTube description appears to be written by Metro and they specifically list the perp as a "violent armed robber" (based on their investigation which includes interviews with the survivor). That's good enough for me. Today's pschopaths will kill you for a pack of cigarettes, or simply for kicks. There's no rhyme or reason to their evil and there is no dollar amount attached to their crimes.

You talking to me? You talking to me?
Just watched the liquor store scene. I would have put more shots in the perp but it's a movie and pistol bullets always drop guys in movies.


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[VegasGlock]

Originally Posted by Luxom

So I put a press kick into the front of his knee at the same time I dropped my bag, and followed up with a right hook. He went out cold. I picked up my bag, and the knife and bolted.

That just made my morning!